Outrage seems insufficient.

[catsidhe]

Brazilian Archbishop declares that anyone involved in giving a particular abortion would be excommunicated.

The abortion in question is of the twins being carried by a nine year old girl who had been raped by her stepfather since she was six, and which pregnancy was practically guaranteed to kill her.


Christian love and charity, suck it up.


Note also that there is no mention of the stepfather being excommunicated, making the priorities involved quite clear.

It has also been pointed out that there is a ‘loophole’ in Dogma, to the effect that an abortion may only be carried out if not doing so would soon result in the death of the mother. I dunno, you think a nine year old girl with twins might qualify? Because the report says that the Holy and Compassionate Mother Church didn't think so, attempting to block the abortion anyway.

It has yet further been said that the excommunications were of the sort that merely participating in the procedure was sufficient, and that a properly delegated priest or higher could reverse it. In which case: if it was determined that the procedure wasn't excommunication-worthy ex post facto, then surely the un-excommunication must be retroactive? But regardless, the Archbishop is talking about it in the future tense. To him, this is not something which is a legalistic formalism, this is something which is yet to be done, and it will be done, and he is going to make sure that it is done. But not for the man who raped a nine year old girl and got her pregnant. This is not, obviously, nearly as bad a crime against God and Man as is saving a little girl's life.


You want me to believe that the Holy Catholic Church of Rome is worth pissing on? Show me the evidence that this Archbishop has been even told off for being such an egregious putz.

Comments

[bar-barra.livejournal.com]

I've spoken elsewhere on this one. I know why they feel this way, but it is indeed a convincing demonstration that the chief difference between Mother Church and the Talibunnies is that these guys just say it with bell, book and candle instead of swords and rocks.

Same attitudes, however.

[omnot.livejournal.com]

Indeed.

The Catholics force the nine year old rape victim to proceed with a pregnancy that will likely kill her? Catholics say: "Our religion demands it!"

The Taliban stone the nine year old rape victim to death for her "sins" in accordance with their religious beliefs? Catholics say: "Abhorrent! Barbaric! Murder!"

I sort of point and gesture wildly in a state of inarticulate, spittle frothing rage and exasperation. Then, remembering that you can't reason a person out of a position they were not reasoned into, I give up on discussion and start sharpening my pruning shears.

[sjl.livejournal.com]

Frankly, there is no outrage that the Vatican could commit that would surprise me. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch.

The list of issues I have with them is so long that even the evidence you ask for would not suffice for me to piss on them. They're irrelevant to modern society; it's just taking people far too long to realise it.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_zombiemonkey/]

The Church has never been about compassion, tolerance or mercy. These are not concepts ever considered in the formation of the Catholic Church. It has only ever been about social control, control of women, consolidation of temporal power and wealth. Quite frankly, the surprise these days would be in if they did anything remotely sensible or compassionate, like excommunicate the father in this particular noxious example and extend support to the little girl.

Still, what can you expect from a church founded by a woman hater, that has been thoroughly interdependent throughout its history with every form of tyranny, fascism and oppression?