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catsidheBack at work. Busy and stressful, but in a different way from holidays.
The Beechworth trip was good, even if it did include two days of 40˚C+ heat. I found Robert Taylor's grave. (Knowing in which section to look made it much easier). I looked through all the headstones in the Presbyterian section of the Yackandandah cemetery, but did not find a single Taylor. I suspect that they were all wooden headstones, and have been elided by termites, rot and bushfires. I will be contacting a guy to see if I can get my hands on a CD with the records of the Yack cemetery, saved from the gutted museum. (Apparently quite a lot of records in filing cabinets, and on hard drives, were saved from the rubble.)
Also, in Yackandandah I found a history of the Yack Primary School, which includes a list of the first hundred students: Robert is #19, and his big sister Eliza is #21.
I also found (I think) the house he lived in (it looks in places about old enough at the core, although there have been people living in it and changing it for almost a hundred years since. Once it was named "Iolanthe"), and the place he worked. (Now it is the Beechworth Galleries, and is for sale, but then it was a store owned by a man called, I think, Samuel Shaw (1826-1901). The ad for the property describes extensive cellars, and Shaw's entry in the Biog. Dict (#27) says that his stores were general stores, but also sold wine. The description says that the store was on Camp and Kerford, where it is now Albert and Kerford, but Albert is just a section of Camp st renamed, I think
For historical interest, student #1 was a kid called Isaac Isaacs. I told my Grandmother about this, and she said that Robert (her grandfather) had talked about him. The Isaacs were poor, and Jewish, and accordingly were apparently treated quite badly by the other students. Their father was, reportedly, regularly up with the teacher, complaining about their treatment.
I also found something which might be of interest to Mum: Robert went to school with a boy called John Temby. From other records, I know that his name was actually Nicholas John Temby, but apparently he preferred going by his middle name, which makes sense as his father's name was Nicholas Temby. John Temby was Nicholas's son by his first wife, who at that time (1864) was still alive. She (Jane née Shugg) died in 1874. The next year, Nicholas married again, to a 20 year old lass named Hannah Taylor: Robert's sister.
When I told Nanna this, she told me that her (great-)aunt Hannah and uncle Nicholas had a series of Jack Russell terriers, all named "Jack or something like it". (No, that's not a mistake, that was the name of the dogs.) Much later, when Nanna was on a chook farm in Heidelberg, she delivered to a young, as yet childless, couple (as an aside, the husband had a glass eye). They had a Jack Russell terrier named "Jack or something like it". When Nanna commented on the name, and how her great uncle used that name for his dogs, she was replied "Yes, Nicholas Temby was my grandfather". Small world...
Fascinating, wot?
I've also got a copy of the Biographical Dictionary of the Pioneers of the Ovens and Townsmen of Beechworth (by M. Rosalyn Shennan). Back in the late nineteenth century a photographer on Ford St in Beechworth decided to trump up interest in his craft by creating a collage of all the men in the district who would sit still long enough. Later, local historians went through and identified whom they could, and wrote a short bio of each of them. None of my direct ancestors have a named section, alas, although Nanna says that James Taylor (Robert's father) is on one of the collages, but unnamed, so he hasn't been added to the dictionary. There are others there, though, such as Nicholas Temby (which is where I learned of his first wife, and the names of his parents.)
The Beechworth trip was good, even if it did include two days of 40˚C+ heat. I found Robert Taylor's grave. (Knowing in which section to look made it much easier). I looked through all the headstones in the Presbyterian section of the Yackandandah cemetery, but did not find a single Taylor. I suspect that they were all wooden headstones, and have been elided by termites, rot and bushfires. I will be contacting a guy to see if I can get my hands on a CD with the records of the Yack cemetery, saved from the gutted museum. (Apparently quite a lot of records in filing cabinets, and on hard drives, were saved from the rubble.)
Also, in Yackandandah I found a history of the Yack Primary School, which includes a list of the first hundred students: Robert is #19, and his big sister Eliza is #21.
I also found (I think) the house he lived in (it looks in places about old enough at the core, although there have been people living in it and changing it for almost a hundred years since. Once it was named "Iolanthe"), and the place he worked. (Now it is the Beechworth Galleries, and is for sale, but then it was a store owned by a man called, I think, Samuel Shaw (1826-1901). The ad for the property describes extensive cellars, and Shaw's entry in the Biog. Dict (#27) says that his stores were general stores, but also sold wine. The description says that the store was on Camp and Kerford, where it is now Albert and Kerford, but Albert is just a section of Camp st renamed, I think
For historical interest, student #1 was a kid called Isaac Isaacs. I told my Grandmother about this, and she said that Robert (her grandfather) had talked about him. The Isaacs were poor, and Jewish, and accordingly were apparently treated quite badly by the other students. Their father was, reportedly, regularly up with the teacher, complaining about their treatment.
I also found something which might be of interest to Mum: Robert went to school with a boy called John Temby. From other records, I know that his name was actually Nicholas John Temby, but apparently he preferred going by his middle name, which makes sense as his father's name was Nicholas Temby. John Temby was Nicholas's son by his first wife, who at that time (1864) was still alive. She (Jane née Shugg) died in 1874. The next year, Nicholas married again, to a 20 year old lass named Hannah Taylor: Robert's sister.
When I told Nanna this, she told me that her (great-)aunt Hannah and uncle Nicholas had a series of Jack Russell terriers, all named "Jack or something like it". (No, that's not a mistake, that was the name of the dogs.) Much later, when Nanna was on a chook farm in Heidelberg, she delivered to a young, as yet childless, couple (as an aside, the husband had a glass eye). They had a Jack Russell terrier named "Jack or something like it". When Nanna commented on the name, and how her great uncle used that name for his dogs, she was replied "Yes, Nicholas Temby was my grandfather". Small world...
Fascinating, wot?
I've also got a copy of the Biographical Dictionary of the Pioneers of the Ovens and Townsmen of Beechworth (by M. Rosalyn Shennan). Back in the late nineteenth century a photographer on Ford St in Beechworth decided to trump up interest in his craft by creating a collage of all the men in the district who would sit still long enough. Later, local historians went through and identified whom they could, and wrote a short bio of each of them. None of my direct ancestors have a named section, alas, although Nanna says that James Taylor (Robert's father) is on one of the collages, but unnamed, so he hasn't been added to the dictionary. There are others there, though, such as Nicholas Temby (which is where I learned of his first wife, and the names of his parents.)
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Genealogy
Date: 2008-04-03 04:22 am (UTC)-From Karen
Re: Genealogy
Date: 2008-04-03 05:33 am (UTC)My records show
Nicholas TEMBY (b. Cornwall, d. 8 Nov 1903, Collingwood, Melb., Vic.)
m1. (1856, South Aust.) Jane SHUGG (b. c1838, Cornwall, d. 1874, Yack.)
- Christopher TEMBY (b.1856)
- Nicholas John TEMBY (b.1859)
- Eliza Jane TEMBY (b.1861)
- Grace TEMBY (b.1862)
m2. (c1875) Hannah TAYLOR (b.30 Jun 1855, Yack., d. 1930, Carlton)Nicholas' parents were Chistopher TEMBY and Grace HOLMAN.
Hannah was the eldest of eleven children, children of James TAYLOR (b.12 Aug 1812, Fowlis Wester, Perthshire, Scotland, d.3 Nov 1903, Township Hill, Yack.) and Annie MASTERS (b.9 May 1834, Sussex, d.25 Jan 1897, Wyndham St., Yack.). (m. 5 Oct 1852 Queanbeyan, NSW.)
James' parents were Robert TAYLOR and Isabel ROBERTSON (m.1809, Dron, Perthshire), and he was the second of 7 children.
Annie MASTERS' parents were Charles MASTERS (b.1810, Peasmarsh, Kent, d.28 Aug 1894, Brooks Creek, NSW.) and Philadelphia PAINE (b. 1813, Sussex, d. 30 Sep 1895, Brooks Creek).
I've got more of this sort of thing...
Re: Genealogy
Date: 2008-04-13 02:15 am (UTC)I have lots more info. on the TEMBY and GUEST lines but not a lot on the TAYLORS, other than Hannah's descendants. I do have an old copy of the marriage cert. for Nicholas and Hannah and a couple of old photos. One we believe to be of James Taylor(?), Hannah Taylor and Nicholas Temby around 1901 outside a home in Yack. The other is a family photo believed to be Nicholas, Hannah and 4 children outside the same house.
I'm happy to share anything you may think is of interest to you,and would be very interested in finding out more if you have it, especially about Hannah and Nicholas or any other TEMBY family members.
If it's easier, I'm happy to communicate via direct e-mail.
Re: Genealogy
Date: 2008-04-14 12:09 am (UTC)my address is catsidhe at gmail dot com. I hope to hear from you.
My mother has also done a lot of work on the ancestry of Annie Masters (Hannah's mother), so maybe you would like me to include her in this?
Besides which, my mum is also your cousin...
Re: Genealogy
Date: 2008-04-18 10:13 am (UTC)Re: Genealogy
Date: 2008-08-05 12:36 am (UTC)emma kans
Re: Genealogy
Date: 2008-08-12 11:56 am (UTC)Mail me and I will pass your details on, and vice-versa.